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Hi All, 

Hope everyone's well. 

I'm currently involved in a discussion with a colleague of mine over a situation regarding side business income - hoping someone can clarify. It's loosely based on a situation with a mutual friend of ours.

If an employed person(employment is only income) was to set up something in their spare time(for example a website selling information on a subscription basis), at what point does the website income become taxable?

A bit more info: So far, within 2016/17 one initial payment has been received by a customer. The service is subscription based, and the payment covers one year of service in advance. Therefore, the friend is expecting a renewal payment in one years time. 

 

We're both in agreement that the income needs to be declared to HMRC as Self Employed income when this becomes "regular" however what constitutes regular?

I personally believe that the intent is there to continue to provide the service on an ongoing basis, and therefore the intention is for regular income to arise, and therefore the payment taken in 2016/17 will need to be declared in that year.

My colleague believes that so far it's a sporadic income, therefore not regular, and this will only become regularly after a second payment has been received - at which point all previous income should be declared.

 

Could anyone shed any light on this, maybe confirm who's correct/incorrect and why?

Thanks in advance!



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Check out Birmingham and District Cattle By-Product Ltd case law.

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You have stated it is a business. My view - just because he is crap at it and only got one customer doesnt mean he can avoid registering as self employed.



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You should check out answers with reference to the legal position



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He's not avoiding it Joanne, he's postponing declaring it until he gets his next payment in a year!!!!!!

And I thought I'd seen them all.   Yep totally in agreement with you guys, he's trading, he should be self employed from day one.



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Leger wrote:

He's not avoiding it Joanne, he's postponing declaring it until he gets his next payment in a year!!!!!!


 Unless he is really rubbish at it and doesn't even get a repeat order or another new client! 

 



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First of all Johnny, thanks for the case to have a read of, I'll pass it over to my colleague to have a read of too.

Thanks Joanne and John for your confirmations of my opinion too - much appreciated.

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